Temporary bug? I'm trying to get to the 'about' text and clicking on about yields:

You don't have permission to access /help/ on this server.

i just went to certain tag space (not the general tags.library page) and logged in from there, as i wanted to copy a post. rather than leaving me on that page, it took me to my name space. i didn't think this was what we wanted to have happen?

Moved to: https://pennlib.projectpath.com/projects/441959/todos -nr 

THIS IS AN OPEN BUG

A student has reported that she can't use PennTags in Safari. The posting window doesn't appear, though she is able to make a new project. Can someone confirm this Safair issue for me? I don't have a mac.

(later) -- Ok. The student just brought her computer to the reference desk and it's true that she can't edit posts, or add tags. When she opens the posting screen, everything appears to be fine, but then the edits don't take effect, though the edited post moves to the top of the page.

Moved to: https://pennlib.projectpath.com/projects/441959/todos -nr 

OPEN BUG

In trying to show an example, to the Norwegian student who emailed, about tags in our catalog I tagged a book. The tags did show up in the record but when I went back to edit the post, to add descriptive text, the tags disappeared in the Franklin record.

Moved to: https://pennlib.projectpath.com/projects/441959/todos -nr 

Open Bug

I have found that clicking the "Add and Go to PennTags" button from the posting page neither adds the post nor does it take you to PennTags. The posting page simply disappears, and there is no "your post was successful" confirmation. This happened if I used either the bookmarklet or the toolbar (FireFox version 1.0.3).

 moved to pennlib.projectpath.com

OPEN BUG

I have noticed that some of my posts that belong to a project do not have the "belongs to projectname project" text. I think this is a great feature and I feel it is important to keep uniformity with all posts.

moved to pennlib.projectpath.com - nr 

THIS IS AN OPEN BUG

After you search, you get those plus signs on the side, which should take you to intersections between tags. Sadly, when you click on the +tag, you get an error because the url is still http://tags.library.upenn.edu/search/term+tag. It should be http://tags.library.upenn.edu/tag/tag+tag.

The search is of the tags and of the titles...so the numbers next to the tags is meaningless...try searching american+history+hollywood...that's not 4 items

Moved to pennlib.projectpath.com - nr 

1. Move to new server
2. Move to new database server
3. Stabilize project stuff
4. Implement New design
5. Demonstrate tagcloud on the right.
6. Remove windows characters from html
7. RSS Feed needs work
8. Deal with 4000 character limit in posting form
9. Integrate film projects into VCat
10. change "feed available here" to "subscribe to this page"
11. make a link to my tagspace from my name in the top right corner
12. Redo the bookmarklets and the Penn Toolbar
    

Top Priorities (in no order)

• Batch tool
• Import bookmarks from delicious / amazon / yahoo /browser bookmarks
• Edit Tags all at once (replace all movie with movies)
• Project Layout tool
  
• Let me add subheadings with discursive text in projects
• Reorder posts in a project
• Posting tool
• Allow me to tag pages in Franklin other than record pages -- tag a search or a subject heading
• Fail screen for items tagged from Factiva or Lexis
• When I try to tag something that I have already tagged, tags and description should be included so that I don't tag the same thing twice accidentally
• The ability to tag an article from a fulltext journal article where there has been no been penntext (extremely important and extremely difficult)
• It's not that it is hard, many articles can already be tagged without a problem.
• It is resources that do not have stable urls that are problems or licensed resources being available from off campus.
• So, I can do two things here:
• scan for proxyness -- that is, if it looks like a proxiable resource, then prepend the proxy login.
• scan the page for a doi -- this will be time consuming for the patron since all pages will have to be scanned.
• Do you have any guidence?
• Allow users to post an item to several projects

THIS IS AN OPEN IMPLEMENTATION REQUEST

1. Popup window including the followign text in front of the posting box:
   
   Your PennTags posts are accessible to anyone on the Internet. By its nature, this tool is public and is designed to facilitate community-building where the sharing of resources is encouraged. If you want to make your bookmarks (posts) private so that they will not automatically display to the public, select the option "Hide from public view" when you add or edit your posts.
   
   Use of PennTags is governed by the Library's Privacy Policy and content is subject to the University's Policy on Appropriate Use of Electronic Resources .
   
   See PennTags Help Pages for more information.
   
   (checkbox)I have read the above statement and would like to continue adding a post to Penntags
   (checkbox)I would like to leave PennTags immediately without adding a post
   
   
2. A fuller welcome will also be sent to new posters including the language from my earlier post. (When we launch PennTags (after red modifications), we'll send a welcome email to old users)
   
3. If users do not agree to the popup statement, the posting window will go away and we will not keep any information about them so that they are free to opt in some other time.

IMPLEMENT THIS

My two most favorite keep-the-ball-rolling-fixes:
1. Please fix the about pages soon so that I can more easily send links to the about pages to people. thanks.

2. Guest access that we can give out to interested parties.

(moved to pennlib.projectpath.com) - nr 

ENHANCEMENT 

We're working hard on implementing a better project management system which we'll talk about at the next meeting.

In the meantime, here's something I just stumbled onto:

Ma.gnol.ia has groups, where you join a group and can share things inside the group, or through the group.

And del.icio.us has just implemented Networks.

Is this something we should be building into the architecture? Some ability to identify myself as part of a group or set of groups, so beyond the project level?

ENHANCEMENT

I'm using Penntags to gather a list of census block statistics for a meeting tomorrow, and I'm realizing that it would be great if I could print out the list into three chunks -- one for each library location. But, of course, I've already tagged a bunch of things before I realized that I'd like to do that. But, what a great sorting option that would be -- sort my project/page by library location, by author of book, etc. Just saying -- it would be really nice.

August 30 -- Everything is ready.

1. Tool is functional

2. Design is complete

3. Staff are trained

4. Documentation is complete
Feedback in place -- blog

5. Marketing is ready to go -

Swag is printed
Contacts are on board

Training all month of August for staff

August 2 -- Code freeze

Testing galore

Design happens

Early July --

Stop new development and start fixing the bugs and integrating

(Ajax pieces need to be written -- with Leslie, a team member, and a programmer)

API's need to be written -- posting and display before July

for next week
Marcella and Carlos will talk to Joe Zucca about marketing, and will break up the tasks. budget?

melanie and annette -- training plan

franklin -- jen sweda -- what should it look like in Franklin? Functionality, documentation, remove owner?

what are our top priorities?

melanie will write up her posting suggestion   DONE.

ENHANCEMENT  

In a perfect world, when I am tagging a post, I would like for the tag to be autofilled with a tag I have already used. For example, when using the tag bioinformatics I would like for the tag to show up when I type the bioi. This would enforce some continuity. It would be even nicer if when I typed bio that I would have some kind of little pop-up box with the options of biology & bioinformatics and anything else bio...so I could choose. I hate to say it but delicious does a nice job of this. Also I would like a listing of Popular tags to show up, not neccessarily my tags but others. 

Can we get this in before the July code freeze? Please, thank you.

Apologies.  I was using Safari and the description of the bug did not post.  So, here is the bug.

One of our librarians noticed a bug about our search function.  If you search a tag, public_health, the search results display postings where public_health is a tag as well as where it just a phrase, e.g., public health.  Also, in the Related to box, e.g., Related to public_health, when you click on a tag that is related, e.g., 6+portal, the search engine connects the terms with OR rather than AND.  So, 6+portal does not display 6 postings  It displays more than 6.  In looking at the results, you see postings that are just portal, public health and public_health+portal.  This does not happen if you are doing your search from the Tags page.

On the Tags page, if you locate public_health (17), click on that, you'll see in the Related to box 6+portal.  Now, if you click on 6+portal, you do get 6 postings with the tags public_health and portal.

We need to fix the search function so that it doesn't confuse our users. 

POTENTIAL ENHANCEMENT REQUEST, if URLs change 

Nick Okrent just made an interesting point.  He had created a project about magazine cover images and put it in Ered.  Then we changed the URLs for projects (from http://tags.library.upenn.edu/bibliography/2020 to http://tags.library.upenn.edu/project/2020), but we never told him the URL changed.  So he had to ask why it wasn't working and what to do about it.  I assured him that URLs aren't going to change like that again, but if they do, can be do redirects, so we don't have to go back and change URLs? 

Search is now totally broken:

AND ab.id in ( SELECT id from ANNOGINE_TAG WHERE LOWER(tag) in ('cow' ) UNION SELECT id FROM ANNOGINE_BOOKMARK WHERE ( (lower(description)='cow' or lower(description) like 'cow%' or lower(description) like '% cow%' ) )

Just a reminder about the mechanism for adding and removing posts from a project, when adding a post to a project you simply mouse over the "add to project" link and whala it is added. Now if I come back to a project after some time and forget what I have already placed in it; if I attempt to add something already in it, as we know it removes it. Is this something we are going to work on? I know it was raised awhile ago but don't remember if it made the second list of to-do's.

 Also the text box that does appear looks exactly like the one that says you have added a post. If someone is going through and adding alot of posts at one time to a project, like I was, you don't read the message and before you know it you have inadvertantly removed posts.

Just a reminder about this problem. 

OPEN BUG 

I tagged a VCAT record and noticed two things: 1. Not all my tags appeared 2. When I clicked on the post link it went to a blank page.

MAYBE ENHANCEMENT

While doing a little experiment, I recently downloaded the latest version of delicious. Notice what it now installs in your navigation bar, 2 very nice icons.  Also notice the delicious in the the task bar. Very cool, can we do it too! Since I can't seem to find an easy way to insert an image to the blog, I am sending it through email for all to have a look.

FIXED (I don't think anything was actually done, but this righted itself in the same day)

I just tried to post a website using the bookmarklet. It asked me to log in, which I did, but then just gave me a blank screen. No posting page. Closed it and tried again, and again. Same thing.

FIXED

illene rubin came to the desk and her tags have almost all disappeared. there are three left.

http://tags.library.upenn.edu/rubinir

i went to view all owners, thinking it might display a different number, but it also says three. i tried going to her name space and then an individual tag that she frequently uses, thinking they might display there. no luck.

she desperately needs these things. mike, i said you would email her: rubinir@pobox.upenn.edu

Major kudos to Annette. This document is fantastic. Very succinct. I've made a few small changes in orange. I hope the update is well received by those higher up.

Jennifer

OPEN ENHANCEMENT REQUEST 

A penntags user just sent me the following email: 

"i'd love if i could email a tag to penn-tags when i'm on a computer
that doesn't have my tagging toolbar installed.

ofor example, i'm at the library now.  it'd be a hassle to log in and
tag something.  much better if i could email a tag.  not sure exactly
how it would work but it'd be a cool feature."

FIXED (thanks, mike)

Mike, I just sent you an email about this, but thought I would post it, too, in case anyone else can tell me what I'm doing wrong...

A while back I made a guide based on PennTags feeds. I just went to update the feeds, as they weren't displaying, since I was using old feeds, I guess. So I thought I had it all under control, but now I see that the new feeds I put in are feeds from the last 7 days. Since I posted all the items many months ago, nothing displays. What am I missing? How do I correct this? The guide is at http://gethelp.library.upenn.edu/guides/english/engl96.html, in case you want to see.

FIXED 

For the past few days, when I post a new item, everything works fine if I click the button that says that my post was successful. But, if I don't click that button and wait for the post to dissapear, I get an oracle error until I click "ok" in the popup box. Once I do that, the whole screen goes away. Is there some error at the closing of the box part.

The error is apparently at /webservers/tags/cgi-bin/postit line 348, line 225.

At the meeting on April 12, we came up with procedures to make sure that we are keeping track of bugs. I let Mike know about them, and we're all in agreement that this plan should work better to help us keep track of bug reports and enhancement requests:

April 14: I've added some more rules to try to keep track of what we're going -- LA 

Bugs:

1. Each tagteam member should report bugs when she finds them in Penntags.
2. When you report a bug, you are responsible for keeping track of it until it is fixed, even if that just means updating to make sure that it hasn't been secretly fixed, or editing the post so that it will rise to the top.
3. When you post an open bug, in bold at the top, you should indicate that it is an open bug.
4. When Mike fixes the bug, he usually puts a note in the comments field. When you see that, you should check to make sure that he fixed the bug you were referring to, and then remove the bold from the top of the item.

Enhancements:

1. When you have an idea for PennTags, you should post it to the Enhancements section of the blog.
2. At some point, we should work out a cleaner way to deal with this section.

Implementation-Ready Ideas:

1. When the team has decided on a new feature, it should be described fully in a post in the implementation section. As long as the feature doesn't work, there should be bold at the top of the section saying that it is an open feature request. This section is only for features that we have all agreed on, and are ready for implementation.
2. As Mike works on the feature, he'll comment on the issues as they go through the development process.
   
3. If you posted the implementation request, you should remove the bold when you think the feature has been implemented.
4. After that, problems with the feature should go to the bugs section.
   

1. Formatting of posts - how many characters will display and will there be a standard font type

2. Review to do items

3. Timeline to launch of PT

4. ACRL proposal update

5. Design notes for new posting page http://staffweb.library.upenn.edu/prototypes/tagit/pages06/tagpost-alt.html 

Meeting Notes:

1. Launch Preperations:

We decided to commit to a fall launch (sept) and work backwards from there to ensure that we're prepared with a stable and funcional PennTags and a prepared library staff even if Penntags does not have all of the functionality that it will eventually have. Beginning with the next meeting, we will start to come up with a firm plan including intermediate deadlines to prepare for the launch.

2. Information Sharing -- Getting the word out:

Internally: Annette reported that the Digital Image team is having a PennTags demo soon. Also, Jen Sweda will be reporting at Tech Services Council about PennTags.

Externally: Annette will be presenting a poster at SLA, Mike and Laurie are proposing a paper for ACRL, and will be attending an August meeting of ARL. Still waiting to hear from Educause.

Annette is going to write up an explanation of the work of Tagteam and our goals (in writely).

3. Design Issues:

Notes on Design:
After more use of Penntags, and looking at similar sites (connotea, for example), we discussed the plans for the new design, and agreed that we were moving away from the 3 columns with a tagcloud on the right and have grown fond of the cleaner, centered tagcloud. We still like the idea of moving the the navigation to the left including the new navigation boxes, and we'd like replace the top (many birds - small PennTags logo) with the new one (fewer birds -- Big PennTags logo).

We are also thinking we might like more explanatory text on the main page: (PennTags is a tool for locating, organizing, and sharing your favorite online resources. Members of the Penn Community can collect and maintain URLs, links to journal articles, records in Franklin, our online catalog, and VCat, our online video catalog.) Below the tagclous and explanation, we do want to display the most recent 10 (or so) posts along with links to posts from the last day, 2 days, week, month...

4. Standardized Display of Posts on main page:

Each post should display around 3 lines of unformatted text (unformatted after the citation, that is) (ie uniform font size, spacing, etc) with a link to open the full record (without page reload).

When you follow a tag to the /tag/ page, you should see the number of posts there and all of them displayed more fully. Along the top, we allow them to view just titles, or just titles and a few posts.

5. Blog Rules:

See the http://www.library.upenn.edu/blos/penntags/blog_logistics/blogging_rules_for_tagteam.html for new guidelines to help us keep track of bugs and enhancements.

THIS IS AN OPEN BUG 

I'm not sure if this counts as a bug, but there's no mention of the length-limit on posts in penntags. Do we want to make them longer since students are running into the limit? I don't think we do, but maybe something to think about.

Update: This is really just a standin for the fact that we need to find a way to fix the 4000 character posting limit without deleting people's posts or losing searchability. 

I noticed that Melanie has posted a link to the bound by law comic , which Mike and I have both already posted links to. Unfortunately, there's no way to know that we all posted links to the same comic, because we all tagged slightly differen urls. It seems like a shame that we don't have them all tied together in some way, though, even though they aren't the same thing. Not sure what the solution would be, but you definitely lose the sense that this is a popular source, which it is, because you don't see that "and two other people" thing.

Hey TagTeam: What do you think of this for the email we send out to people after the first time they post? We could also have it be a popup screen that they see the first time they login. What do you say?

Use of PennTags is governed by the Library's Privacy Policy and content is subject to the University's Policy on Appropriate Use of Electronic Resources.

has anyone considered writing a brief guide to tagging style? you've probably already done it, but i thought i would ask.

Peter Decherney